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Pam Fleming - the woman whose career was meant to be

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Picture of Pam laughing in a Church at a wedding

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Job: Operations Manager (Climate Change Trading and Regulatory Services)

Organisation: Environment Agency

Years in public service: 10

My grandmother / mother was a…

Granny was born in 1916 and went to London, without telling her parents, to join the Metropolitan Police. She had worked in an insurance office in Aberdeen and told them she was transferring to London – once she arrived she phoned home and told the truth!

She served in the Metropolitan Police and then Special Branch during World War 2, working undercover against neo-Nazis.  She was well known for her sharp-shooting skills with a pistol.

When she was 40 (with her own family by then), she became a children's officer.  She was asked at interview what her husband (a bank manager) thought of her working and she said it really was none of his business and got the job!  She also served as a magistrate, and in her spare time was one of the founding members of the Scottish Youth Hostel Association.

My Great Auntie Kath was born 1910.  She went to university and got a science degree (not many women in university in the 1930s, let alone in science!) then got a job for life in the marine research laboratory in Aberdeen. She never married and during war the marine research lab became a government department covered by the official secrets act.  Eventually, she became a Senior Scientific Officer.  She was awarded an MBE for public service in 1972 for her work in the Department of Trade and Industry.

Me in a paragraph

I am Scottish but have made my home in England, where I am married with 2 children. Having been a not sporty person my entire life, I am about to get my own football shirt for the ladies football team I play in. I have also recently started helping with my local Scouts because they seem to do loads of really cool stuff and I want to do it too!

I studied chemistry at university and worked in both the chemical manufacturing and waste industries before I moved into a role at the Environment Agency.

Researching my female family has really made me feel like my career choices were 'meant to be'.

My role

I manage the Operational Support team which is part of Climate Change Trading and Regulatory Services.  That is around 35 people, with 3 team leaders and one Principal Technical officer.  It is a challenging role due to the fact that we support 8 different regulatory regimes across the United Kingdom, with lots of different deadlines throughout the year.

I really enjoy working here, the flexibility it gives me for my personal life and the variety of opportunities have allowed me to thrive and keep learning so here I am….

If I had a magic wand how would I accelerate gender equality

I would get more men involved!  There is no point hosting ‘women’s equality events’ and only talking to women.

As a mum of boys, I feel that we have maybe gone too far the other way.  I see lots of support material for young girls, and struggle to find the equivalent for boys.

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3 comments

  1. Comment by Vicky Rockingham posted on

    So interesting to read about your relatives and the similarities to yourself. I agree about raising boys and lack of support materials.

  2. Comment by Claire Shand posted on

    What a great piece, loved reading this, thanks for sharing!

  3. Comment by Tudor posted on

    This is brilliant, thanks for sharing.

    I had no idea you had links to espionage. Makes me wonder if you really are who you say you are ! 😀

    I totally agree about getting men involved and I think this starts by making sure everyone is on the same page. For example, I remember in school the boys learnt about 'male sexual health' and the girls learnt about 'female sexual health'. Had we all learnt about both then I feel it would help stop future uncertainties and stigmas which only further fuel inequalities. Instead, boys often have to wait until they get a girlfriend before learning about menstrual cycles!